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After learning that Google was holding Honeycomb’s source back from all but major hardware partners, we panicked. The day may have finally come where Google was no more open than Apple. Another angle presented itself, though – Google was just getting sick and tired of fragmentation on their platform. Yes, the problem is VERY real even with most users now on Android 2.1 or higher.
New reports have surfaced that seems to back-up Google’s stance going forward. They’re said to be working with ARM in standardizing their architecture for Android. The problem now is that ARM’s chipset differs in instruction sets from release to release making it difficult for OEM software engineers and application developers to target multiple platforms.
The original report made it sound as if Google had chosen ARM as some sort of unofficial architecture partner, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Art Swift of MIPS reports that Google invited them to sign an “antifragmentation” clause alongside the likes of Intel, ARM, and any other architecture vendor who wants to provide Android-compatible systems.
The move is said to ensure that application compatibility and portability can be accomplished with little to no issue. He reports that OEMs and chipset providers who want early access to new versions of Android must sign this clause, otherwise they’ll have to wait until Google provides the source to the general public. (And if Honeycomb’s delayed release is anything to go by, there’s no telling how long that will take.)
It may seem like doomsday for the openness of Android but I, for one, welcome the cause. If this will help unify the Android experience from device to device and if it ultimately means faster updates regardless of which manufacturer you choose to buy your products from, then I don’t see why anyone would have a problem with it.
We want open, but with that comes the consequences we’ve been facing for the past couple of years. You have to compromise in this situation and meet in the middle with something. You should still sleep well at the end of the day knowing that Android is more open than any other mainstream platform commercially available.
Guess we all knew this would happen sooner or later. Hopefully this will bring the entire platform closer to quicker updates bottom line.
Guess we all knew this would happen sooner or later. Hopefully this will bring the entire platform closer to quicker updates bottom line.
Guess we all knew this would happen sooner or later. Hopefully this will bring the entire platform closer to quicker updates bottom line.
Guess we all knew this would happen sooner or later. Hopefully this will bring the entire platform closer to quicker updates bottom line.
Well I say if google starts acting up I will assure you sell will go down to the… cause the only thing keeping their sales is the freedom they give if start messing with that goodby google
Well I say if google starts acting up I will assure you sell will go down to the… cause the only thing keeping their sales is the freedom they give if start messing with that goodby google
The ONLY thing huh? Forget the fact that Android is just awesome huh?
The ONLY thing huh? Forget the fact that Android is just awesome huh?
The ONLY thing huh? Forget the fact that Android is just awesome huh?
The ONLY thing huh? Forget the fact that Android is just awesome huh?
just as an analogy, google is trying to do the same thing that Ford was doing back when they created the first Model-T car. Mass production and assembly lines. Instead of making 1,000 customized individual parts for each car, make a 1,000 reproduce-able car parts so that each car can be identical to the next one. this allows third-parties (our developers) to create customized cd-players, seat warmer, audio system, etc. for car very easily now that the power source is standardized.
just as an analogy, google is trying to do the same thing that Ford was doing back when they created the first Model-T car. Mass production and assembly lines. Instead of making 1,000 customized individual parts for each car, make a 1,000 reproduce-able car parts so that each car can be identical to the next one. this allows third-parties (our developers) to create customized cd-players, seat warmer, audio system, etc. for car very easily now that the power source is standardized.
just as an analogy, google is trying to do the same thing that Ford was doing back when they created the first Model-T car. Mass production and assembly lines. Instead of making 1,000 customized individual parts for each car, make a 1,000 reproduce-able car parts so that each car can be identical to the next one. this allows third-parties (our developers) to create customized cd-players, seat warmer, audio system, etc. for car very easily now that the power source is standardized.
just as an analogy, google is trying to do the same thing that Ford was doing back when they created the first Model-T car. Mass production and assembly lines. Instead of making 1,000 customized individual parts for each car, make a 1,000 reproduce-able car parts so that each car can be identical to the next one. this allows third-parties (our developers) to create customized cd-players, seat warmer, audio system, etc. for car very easily now that the power source is standardized.
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
yeah, It makes no difference to end users,
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
The “freedom” they give is for end users to customize Android all they want, install apps form other markets. . .
Oh wait, most of those freedoms are taken away via the carriers and OEM’s.
What were you saying again? You think 90% of users are hacking their smartphones?
Well I say if google starts acting up I will assure you sell will go down to the… cause the only thing keeping their sales is the freedom they give if start messing with that goodby google
Well I say if google starts acting up I will assure you sell will go down to the… cause the only thing keeping their sales is the freedom they give if start messing with that goodby google
I lol’d
I lol’d
I lol’d
I lol’d
Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open. It’s licensed under the Apache license, not the GPL.
That aside, I think this is a good move. Google is using industry weight to force backwards compliance amongst CPU’s; the same way today’s Intel processors can still run machine code written for a 386.
Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open. It’s licensed under the Apache license, not the GPL.
That aside, I think this is a good move. Google is using industry weight to force backwards compliance amongst CPU’s; the same way today’s Intel processors can still run machine code written for a 386.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
“Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open.”
You make no sense at all there. That’s like saying BSD isn’t open sourced because they don’t use the GPL license yet anyone can work on it, use it, and do whatever they like. . .. like Apple did by using it to make OS X. The license only dictates what the licensee can do, not whether or not the software itself is “open.”
There is a big difference between an “open platform” and “open source” and I think Android users really need to get a grasp on those two ideas.
Android most definitely is an “open platform” and I’m sure they will do all they can to ensure that stays that way.
I’m sure they will also continue to release it to the open source community however, they may delay those release to ensure OEM’s follow the guidelines–some times you gotta do what you gotta do to ensure the benefit for the many instead of the few.
Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open. It’s licensed under the Apache license, not the GPL.
That aside, I think this is a good move. Google is using industry weight to force backwards compliance amongst CPU’s; the same way today’s Intel processors can still run machine code written for a 386.
Android is more open than any other platform, but it’s never really been open. It’s licensed under the Apache license, not the GPL.
That aside, I think this is a good move. Google is using industry weight to force backwards compliance amongst CPU’s; the same way today’s Intel processors can still run machine code written for a 386.
Yeah, I have a feeling they are not licking down, like Apple, but rather as the article states, trying to get rid of fragmentation….we’re all irritated when we see a new device being released with Android 2.1 knowing that 2.2 has been available for….a year? And then manufacturers like Samsung want to wait forever and ever to update their devices (the Fascinate, for example, still hasn’t received froyo, while the D1 has already moved on to GingerBread)… Plus who isn’t tired of seeing Touch-Wiz (whatever its called, lol), MotoBlur, and Sense laid overtop of Android? I for one welcome this-provided Google doesn’t. Forget about the consumer desire for freedom and open source. And of course, lets not forget the rooting community, who are probably the most loyal enthusiastic group of Android lovers out there :)
Yeah, I have a feeling they are not licking down, like Apple, but rather as the article states, trying to get rid of fragmentation….we’re all irritated when we see a new device being released with Android 2.1 knowing that 2.2 has been available for….a year? And then manufacturers like Samsung want to wait forever and ever to update their devices (the Fascinate, for example, still hasn’t received froyo, while the D1 has already moved on to GingerBread)… Plus who isn’t tired of seeing Touch-Wiz (whatever its called, lol), MotoBlur, and Sense laid overtop of Android? I for one welcome this-provided Google doesn’t. Forget about the consumer desire for freedom and open source. And of course, lets not forget the rooting community, who are probably the most loyal enthusiastic group of Android lovers out there :)
Yeah, I have a feeling they are not licking down, like Apple, but rather as the article states, trying to get rid of fragmentation….we’re all irritated when we see a new device being released with Android 2.1 knowing that 2.2 has been available for….a year? And then manufacturers like Samsung want to wait forever and ever to update their devices (the Fascinate, for example, still hasn’t received froyo, while the D1 has already moved on to GingerBread)… Plus who isn’t tired of seeing Touch-Wiz (whatever its called, lol), MotoBlur, and Sense laid overtop of Android? I for one welcome this-provided Google doesn’t. Forget about the consumer desire for freedom and open source. And of course, lets not forget the rooting community, who are probably the most loyal enthusiastic group of Android lovers out there :)
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Samsung’s about to drop 2.3.3 on the international galaxy s phones. The whole thing in the US w/ the variants taking so long was squarely the carriers fault as they just have to have their own tweaks baked into the OS. You honestly don’t really see this type of crap happen overseas. It was pretty annoying watching friends w/ their galaxy s’s getting Froyo from like November while I had to wait until January for it to appear on mine (Vibrant here). I just wish google would limit the amount of crap the carriers put on the phones in the first place. I’m sure 99% of customers don’t even want the bloat on in the first place. Google needs to also enforce letting consumers have the option of choosing the stock launcher over the manufacturer’s UIs (stock is so much better!).
Yeah, I have a feeling they are not licking down, like Apple, but rather as the article states, trying to get rid of fragmentation….we’re all irritated when we see a new device being released with Android 2.1 knowing that 2.2 has been available for….a year? And then manufacturers like Samsung want to wait forever and ever to update their devices (the Fascinate, for example, still hasn’t received froyo, while the D1 has already moved on to GingerBread)… Plus who isn’t tired of seeing Touch-Wiz (whatever its called, lol), MotoBlur, and Sense laid overtop of Android? I for one welcome this-provided Google doesn’t. Forget about the consumer desire for freedom and open source. And of course, lets not forget the rooting community, who are probably the most loyal enthusiastic group of Android lovers out there :)
Agreed!
From what I’ve heard from inside sources, from now on processors will have to include the Java VM natively so they can doo away with the Davlik layer and radically speed up processes. By removing the main strenght of Android, the Java VM layer that allows it to run on virtually any architecture, they will be one step closer to Apple and to world domination.
From what I’ve heard from inside sources, from now on processors will have to include the Java VM natively so they can doo away with the Davlik layer and radically speed up processes. By removing the main strenght of Android, the Java VM layer that allows it to run on virtually any architecture, they will be one step closer to Apple and to world domination.
From what I’ve heard from inside sources, from now on processors will have to include the Java VM natively so they can doo away with the Davlik layer and radically speed up processes. By removing the main strenght of Android, the Java VM layer that allows it to run on virtually any architecture, they will be one step closer to Apple and to world domination.
From what I’ve heard from inside sources, from now on processors will have to include the Java VM natively so they can doo away with the Davlik layer and radically speed up processes. By removing the main strenght of Android, the Java VM layer that allows it to run on virtually any architecture, they will be one step closer to Apple and to world domination.
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
I have never heard anything about this but I hope its true… I love android to death but both my 1ghz evo and my old 1ghz epic felt horribly slow next to my roommates iphone4
well, is time to grab the bull by the horns….
well, is time to grab the bull by the horns….
well, is time to grab the bull by the horns….
well, is time to grab the bull by the horns….
This has been needed for the past year now I would say. I really hope Ice Cream is the beginning of a more uniform Android.
This has been needed for the past year now I would say. I really hope Ice Cream is the beginning of a more uniform Android.
This has been needed for the past year now I would say. I really hope Ice Cream is the beginning of a more uniform Android.
This has been needed for the past year now I would say. I really hope Ice Cream is the beginning of a more uniform Android.
Way to go Appl… erm Google !
Jokes apart, i’m ok with their move, this as been a great “pressure” for any consumer, choosing carefully which device to buy to get the most out of it because carriers and oems didn’t update all the devices they have, or because they get delayed.
I’m really looking forward for a “future” where all android devices are united under the same OS and the OEMs/Carriers can only put simple mods on it to let all devices get the latest updates simultaneously.
Way to go Appl… erm Google !
Jokes apart, i’m ok with their move, this as been a great “pressure” for any consumer, choosing carefully which device to buy to get the most out of it because carriers and oems didn’t update all the devices they have, or because they get delayed.
I’m really looking forward for a “future” where all android devices are united under the same OS and the OEMs/Carriers can only put simple mods on it to let all devices get the latest updates simultaneously.
Way to go Appl… erm Google !
Jokes apart, i’m ok with their move, this as been a great “pressure” for any consumer, choosing carefully which device to buy to get the most out of it because carriers and oems didn’t update all the devices they have, or because they get delayed.
I’m really looking forward for a “future” where all android devices are united under the same OS and the OEMs/Carriers can only put simple mods on it to let all devices get the latest updates simultaneously.
Way to go Appl… erm Google !
Jokes apart, i’m ok with their move, this as been a great “pressure” for any consumer, choosing carefully which device to buy to get the most out of it because carriers and oems didn’t update all the devices they have, or because they get delayed.
I’m really looking forward for a “future” where all android devices are united under the same OS and the OEMs/Carriers can only put simple mods on it to let all devices get the latest updates simultaneously.
I hope these rumors are just that.
noooo.. u all absolutely wrong, android will more open than “last day”. this is new era of android, and will be come to us. google will hard work make not fragmanted again in android world. u all absolutely wrong about this story
noooo.. u all absolutely wrong, android will more open than “last day”. this is new era of android, and will be come to us. google will hard work make not fragmanted again in android world. u all absolutely wrong about this story
noooo.. u all absolutely wrong, android will more open than “last day”. this is new era of android, and will be come to us. google will hard work make not fragmanted again in android world. u all absolutely wrong about this story
Dude what language are you speaking
Dude what language are you speaking
Dude what language are you speaking
Dude what language are you speaking
noooo.. u all absolutely wrong, android will more open than “last day”. this is new era of android, and will be come to us. google will hard work make not fragmanted again in android world. u all absolutely wrong about this story
Doomsday, one word ;)
Doomsday, one word ;)
Doomsday, one word ;)
Doomsday, one word ;)
This is an April Fool’s joke, right?
This is an April Fool’s joke, right?
This is an April Fool’s joke, right?
is google still going to release the source code? Sounds open to me. This is for the benefit of the non-rooters. Every one will now have the same out of the box android experience. Those who root, this will not change anything.
is google still going to release the source code? Sounds open to me. This is for the benefit of the non-rooters. Every one will now have the same out of the box android experience. Those who root, this will not change anything.
is google still going to release the source code? Sounds open to me. This is for the benefit of the non-rooters. Every one will now have the same out of the box android experience. Those who root, this will not change anything.
is google still going to release the source code? Sounds open to me. This is for the benefit of the non-rooters. Every one will now have the same out of the box android experience. Those who root, this will not change anything.
“You should still sleep well at the end of the day knowing that Android is more open than any other mainstream platform commercially available.”
Did the definition of open change from “Open” to “More Open than Competitors”? :-)
“You should still sleep well at the end of the day knowing that Android is more open than any other mainstream platform commercially available.”
Did the definition of open change from “Open” to “More Open than Competitors”? :-)
“You should still sleep well at the end of the day knowing that Android is more open than any other mainstream platform commercially available.”
Did the definition of open change from “Open” to “More Open than Competitors”? :-)
well said :)
“You should still sleep well at the end of the day knowing that Android is more open than any other mainstream platform commercially available.”
Did the definition of open change from “Open” to “More Open than Competitors”? :-)
On one hand this could mean it’s easier for people to port new versions to all devices instead of just the ones with common hardware. This would be good for those with Samsung or Sony or whatever that don’t get all of the ports like Cyanogen.
At the same time, I get worried that more lockdown means independent devs won’t even be able to port the open source Android to new devices. That is one of my favorite things…I don’t have to wait on HTC or Sprint to spoon feed me an update. I can count on new versions being quickly ported to my device as they are available and source is published. I’ve never had to wait for Froyo or Gingerbread because anyone can port AOSP to my device.
On one hand this could mean it’s easier for people to port new versions to all devices instead of just the ones with common hardware. This would be good for those with Samsung or Sony or whatever that don’t get all of the ports like Cyanogen.
At the same time, I get worried that more lockdown means independent devs won’t even be able to port the open source Android to new devices. That is one of my favorite things…I don’t have to wait on HTC or Sprint to spoon feed me an update. I can count on new versions being quickly ported to my device as they are available and source is published. I’ve never had to wait for Froyo or Gingerbread because anyone can port AOSP to my device.
I don’t think this will have any impact on the independent devs. They will have the same access to the source once it is released. This only impacts those device manufactures that want early access to the source .
I don’t think this will have any impact on the independent devs. They will have the same access to the source once it is released. This only impacts those device manufactures that want early access to the source .
I don’t think this will have any impact on the independent devs. They will have the same access to the source once it is released. This only impacts those device manufactures that want early access to the source .
I don’t think this will have any impact on the independent devs. They will have the same access to the source once it is released. This only impacts those device manufactures that want early access to the source .
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
I agree with what google is doing, but it does mean we will wait a little longer for roms, cause developers won’t have early access to the aosp.
On one hand this could mean it’s easier for people to port new versions to all devices instead of just the ones with common hardware. This would be good for those with Samsung or Sony or whatever that don’t get all of the ports like Cyanogen.
At the same time, I get worried that more lockdown means independent devs won’t even be able to port the open source Android to new devices. That is one of my favorite things…I don’t have to wait on HTC or Sprint to spoon feed me an update. I can count on new versions being quickly ported to my device as they are available and source is published. I’ve never had to wait for Froyo or Gingerbread because anyone can port AOSP to my device.
On one hand this could mean it’s easier for people to port new versions to all devices instead of just the ones with common hardware. This would be good for those with Samsung or Sony or whatever that don’t get all of the ports like Cyanogen.
At the same time, I get worried that more lockdown means independent devs won’t even be able to port the open source Android to new devices. That is one of my favorite things…I don’t have to wait on HTC or Sprint to spoon feed me an update. I can count on new versions being quickly ported to my device as they are available and source is published. I’ve never had to wait for Froyo or Gingerbread because anyone can port AOSP to my device.
Unfortunately I think this does nothing to fight the 500 pound gorilla in the room: wireless carriers who refuse to release updates no mater how minor the changes until they can rip out every feature that doesn’t help thier arbitrary pricing model.
Sure standardized cpu might help google send or direct updates, but thats trivial in the big picture.
Unfortunately I think this does nothing to fight the 500 pound gorilla in the room: wireless carriers who refuse to release updates no mater how minor the changes until they can rip out every feature that doesn’t help thier arbitrary pricing model.
Sure standardized cpu might help google send or direct updates, but thats trivial in the big picture.
Unfortunately I think this does nothing to fight the 500 pound gorilla in the room: wireless carriers who refuse to release updates no mater how minor the changes until they can rip out every feature that doesn’t help thier arbitrary pricing model.
Sure standardized cpu might help google send or direct updates, but thats trivial in the big picture.
Unfortunately I think this does nothing to fight the 500 pound gorilla in the room: wireless carriers who refuse to release updates no mater how minor the changes until they can rip out every feature that doesn’t help thier arbitrary pricing model.
Sure standardized cpu might help google send or direct updates, but thats trivial in the big picture.
It’s seeming more and more, as we Phandroidians might recall stating, that Google is happy with the OS as it stands for the moment. I feel like they’ve stopped pushing the development train quite so hard for the moment and are focusing more on cleaning house. Thank God someone gets the patter right. Develop develop develop develop….clean house….develop more perfect OS. Depending on the progress of all this cleaning Ice Cream should be amazingly well unified. If not by Ice Cream, what I assume will be Jellybean (or some such J-worded dessert) should be the Icing on the cake. Mmmmm….icing…..
It’s seeming more and more, as we Phandroidians might recall stating, that Google is happy with the OS as it stands for the moment. I feel like they’ve stopped pushing the development train quite so hard for the moment and are focusing more on cleaning house. Thank God someone gets the patter right. Develop develop develop develop….clean house….develop more perfect OS. Depending on the progress of all this cleaning Ice Cream should be amazingly well unified. If not by Ice Cream, what I assume will be Jellybean (or some such J-worded dessert) should be the Icing on the cake. Mmmmm….icing…..
It’s seeming more and more, as we Phandroidians might recall stating, that Google is happy with the OS as it stands for the moment. I feel like they’ve stopped pushing the development train quite so hard for the moment and are focusing more on cleaning house. Thank God someone gets the patter right. Develop develop develop develop….clean house….develop more perfect OS. Depending on the progress of all this cleaning Ice Cream should be amazingly well unified. If not by Ice Cream, what I assume will be Jellybean (or some such J-worded dessert) should be the Icing on the cake. Mmmmm….icing…..
It’s seeming more and more, as we Phandroidians might recall stating, that Google is happy with the OS as it stands for the moment. I feel like they’ve stopped pushing the development train quite so hard for the moment and are focusing more on cleaning house. Thank God someone gets the patter right. Develop develop develop develop….clean house….develop more perfect OS. Depending on the progress of all this cleaning Ice Cream should be amazingly well unified. If not by Ice Cream, what I assume will be Jellybean (or some such J-worded dessert) should be the Icing on the cake. Mmmmm….icing…..
I for one absolutely welcome this, and I noticed that quite a few commenters seemed to have missed the point of this. This won’t stifle innovation, or threaten openness – not at all. Google isn’t saying “Only TI (i.e.) will be making the processors that can go into Android devices.” What they are doing is trying to have chipsets with standardized basic architecture across the board – this doesn’t mean that there won’t be different types (clock speeds,single, dual, quad-core and beyond). Rather, the chipset manufacturers will have to innovate along the same lines. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be innovation, it simply means that if a chipset manufacturer develops a new chipset for the Android platform, it has to be compatible. This doesn’t mean that there has to be a set number of cores or built with 40 or 45nm architecture; they have to all have the same underlying standardizations. This is really a win for all of us if it happens; non-root users won’t have to wait as long (theoretically) for updates, and this doesn’t affect root users at all – just the opposite – it will make it easier to port ROMs – at least among phones without encrypted bootloaders, and those with encrypted bootloaders can still port more easily to each other ala the Droid 2/X. If all Android phones have standardized architecture, and the integrated custom UIs are gone in favor of uninstallable UIs – we all get updates much faster(again – theoretically). Fragmentation is getting ridiculous – Google has been talking about Ice Cream(Sandwich?) for some time now, and rooting and ROMing aside, how many phones currently have official Gingerbread right now aside from the Nexus One and Nexus S? How many are still going to be on 2.2 or even 2.1 when 2.4 is released? How many phones out there are fully capable of, and should damn well be running official 2.2 at least and STILL don’t have official Froyo builds while the same companies are pushing out new phones with 2.2 out-of-the-box, and looking at their history, may not see 2.3 for a long time, if ever(I’m looking at you Samsung USA, and Motorola almost everywhere but the US). This, coupled with keeping custom UIs and carrier bloat from being integrated and baked into ROMs *could* go a long way (theoretically- the manufacturers and carriers still have to do their part) in keeping updates coming in a more timely manner. On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing). For a more efficient OS system, there has to be some give and take, so unfortunately, you can’t have your Gingerbread-Honeycomb Ice Cream and eat it too.
I for one absolutely welcome this, and I noticed that quite a few commenters seemed to have missed the point of this. This won’t stifle innovation, or threaten openness – not at all. Google isn’t saying “Only TI (i.e.) will be making the processors that can go into Android devices.” What they are doing is trying to have chipsets with standardized basic architecture across the board – this doesn’t mean that there won’t be different types (clock speeds,single, dual, quad-core and beyond). Rather, the chipset manufacturers will have to innovate along the same lines. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be innovation, it simply means that if a chipset manufacturer develops a new chipset for the Android platform, it has to be compatible. This doesn’t mean that there has to be a set number of cores or built with 40 or 45nm architecture; they have to all have the same underlying standardizations. This is really a win for all of us if it happens; non-root users won’t have to wait as long (theoretically) for updates, and this doesn’t affect root users at all – just the opposite – it will make it easier to port ROMs – at least among phones without encrypted bootloaders, and those with encrypted bootloaders can still port more easily to each other ala the Droid 2/X. If all Android phones have standardized architecture, and the integrated custom UIs are gone in favor of uninstallable UIs – we all get updates much faster(again – theoretically). Fragmentation is getting ridiculous – Google has been talking about Ice Cream(Sandwich?) for some time now, and rooting and ROMing aside, how many phones currently have official Gingerbread right now aside from the Nexus One and Nexus S? How many are still going to be on 2.2 or even 2.1 when 2.4 is released? How many phones out there are fully capable of, and should damn well be running official 2.2 at least and STILL don’t have official Froyo builds while the same companies are pushing out new phones with 2.2 out-of-the-box, and looking at their history, may not see 2.3 for a long time, if ever(I’m looking at you Samsung USA, and Motorola almost everywhere but the US). This, coupled with keeping custom UIs and carrier bloat from being integrated and baked into ROMs *could* go a long way (theoretically- the manufacturers and carriers still have to do their part) in keeping updates coming in a more timely manner. On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing). For a more efficient OS system, there has to be some give and take, so unfortunately, you can’t have your Gingerbread-Honeycomb Ice Cream and eat it too.
I for one absolutely welcome this, and I noticed that quite a few commenters seemed to have missed the point of this. This won’t stifle innovation, or threaten openness – not at all. Google isn’t saying “Only TI (i.e.) will be making the processors that can go into Android devices.” What they are doing is trying to have chipsets with standardized basic architecture across the board – this doesn’t mean that there won’t be different types (clock speeds,single, dual, quad-core and beyond). Rather, the chipset manufacturers will have to innovate along the same lines. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be innovation, it simply means that if a chipset manufacturer develops a new chipset for the Android platform, it has to be compatible. This doesn’t mean that there has to be a set number of cores or built with 40 or 45nm architecture; they have to all have the same underlying standardizations. This is really a win for all of us if it happens; non-root users won’t have to wait as long (theoretically) for updates, and this doesn’t affect root users at all – just the opposite – it will make it easier to port ROMs – at least among phones without encrypted bootloaders, and those with encrypted bootloaders can still port more easily to each other ala the Droid 2/X. If all Android phones have standardized architecture, and the integrated custom UIs are gone in favor of uninstallable UIs – we all get updates much faster(again – theoretically). Fragmentation is getting ridiculous – Google has been talking about Ice Cream(Sandwich?) for some time now, and rooting and ROMing aside, how many phones currently have official Gingerbread right now aside from the Nexus One and Nexus S? How many are still going to be on 2.2 or even 2.1 when 2.4 is released? How many phones out there are fully capable of, and should damn well be running official 2.2 at least and STILL don’t have official Froyo builds while the same companies are pushing out new phones with 2.2 out-of-the-box, and looking at their history, may not see 2.3 for a long time, if ever(I’m looking at you Samsung USA, and Motorola almost everywhere but the US). This, coupled with keeping custom UIs and carrier bloat from being integrated and baked into ROMs *could* go a long way (theoretically- the manufacturers and carriers still have to do their part) in keeping updates coming in a more timely manner. On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing). For a more efficient OS system, there has to be some give and take, so unfortunately, you can’t have your Gingerbread-Honeycomb Ice Cream and eat it too.
I for one absolutely welcome this, and I noticed that quite a few commenters seemed to have missed the point of this. This won’t stifle innovation, or threaten openness – not at all. Google isn’t saying “Only TI (i.e.) will be making the processors that can go into Android devices.” What they are doing is trying to have chipsets with standardized basic architecture across the board – this doesn’t mean that there won’t be different types (clock speeds,single, dual, quad-core and beyond). Rather, the chipset manufacturers will have to innovate along the same lines. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be innovation, it simply means that if a chipset manufacturer develops a new chipset for the Android platform, it has to be compatible. This doesn’t mean that there has to be a set number of cores or built with 40 or 45nm architecture; they have to all have the same underlying standardizations. This is really a win for all of us if it happens; non-root users won’t have to wait as long (theoretically) for updates, and this doesn’t affect root users at all – just the opposite – it will make it easier to port ROMs – at least among phones without encrypted bootloaders, and those with encrypted bootloaders can still port more easily to each other ala the Droid 2/X. If all Android phones have standardized architecture, and the integrated custom UIs are gone in favor of uninstallable UIs – we all get updates much faster(again – theoretically). Fragmentation is getting ridiculous – Google has been talking about Ice Cream(Sandwich?) for some time now, and rooting and ROMing aside, how many phones currently have official Gingerbread right now aside from the Nexus One and Nexus S? How many are still going to be on 2.2 or even 2.1 when 2.4 is released? How many phones out there are fully capable of, and should damn well be running official 2.2 at least and STILL don’t have official Froyo builds while the same companies are pushing out new phones with 2.2 out-of-the-box, and looking at their history, may not see 2.3 for a long time, if ever(I’m looking at you Samsung USA, and Motorola almost everywhere but the US). This, coupled with keeping custom UIs and carrier bloat from being integrated and baked into ROMs *could* go a long way (theoretically- the manufacturers and carriers still have to do their part) in keeping updates coming in a more timely manner. On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing). For a more efficient OS system, there has to be some give and take, so unfortunately, you can’t have your Gingerbread-Honeycomb Ice Cream and eat it too.
“On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing)”
Dude are you serious???? I have an iPhone 4 and a 3GS, and both of them are running the latest software. And I wasn’t held hostage by some carrier who, rather than push out timely updates, withold them in order to force you to buy a different model of phone. What planet have you been on????
Boy that Android kool-aid must taste good….
First of all sport, I don’t drink “kool-aid” ; I don’t live in the ghetto – I buy real juice. Second, I don’t even know why you are here. I never go into Apple forums, and why would I? I don’t own an iPhone and don’t really care if they are running Intel 8086 processors or quantum processors with TMJ-RAM, they’re just not for me. It would be a very sad day indeed if I was trolling iPhone sites while not even owning an iPhone. Is your life so sad, pathetic and empty that you have to go into an Android site, read my long post, and actually take the time to not only read it, but comment on it? Are you so threatened by Android that you need to come into these sites and post mindless comments to make yourself feel better about your product? If you’re that insecure about your iDevice, stop trolling sites not relevant to you and just buy yourself an Android phone.
First of all sport, I don’t drink “kool-aid” ; I don’t live in the ghetto – I buy real juice. Second, I don’t even know why you are here. I never go into Apple forums, and why would I? I don’t own an iPhone and don’t really care if they are running Intel 8086 processors or quantum processors with TMJ-RAM, they’re just not for me. It would be a very sad day indeed if I was trolling iPhone sites while not even owning an iPhone. Is your life so sad, pathetic and empty that you have to go into an Android site, read my long post, and actually take the time to not only read it, but comment on it? Are you so threatened by Android that you need to come into these sites and post mindless comments to make yourself feel better about your product? If you’re that insecure about your iDevice, stop trolling sites not relevant to you and just buy yourself an Android phone.
First of all sport, I don’t drink “kool-aid” ; I don’t live in the ghetto – I buy real juice. Second, I don’t even know why you are here. I never go into Apple forums, and why would I? I don’t own an iPhone and don’t really care if they are running Intel 8086 processors or quantum processors with TMJ-RAM, they’re just not for me. It would be a very sad day indeed if I was trolling iPhone sites while not even owning an iPhone. Is your life so sad, pathetic and empty that you have to go into an Android site, read my long post, and actually take the time to not only read it, but comment on it? Are you so threatened by Android that you need to come into these sites and post mindless comments to make yourself feel better about your product? If you’re that insecure about your iDevice, stop trolling sites not relevant to you and just buy yourself an Android phone.
First of all sport, I don’t drink “kool-aid” ; I don’t live in the ghetto – I buy real juice. Second, I don’t even know why you are here. I never go into Apple forums, and why would I? I don’t own an iPhone and don’t really care if they are running Intel 8086 processors or quantum processors with TMJ-RAM, they’re just not for me. It would be a very sad day indeed if I was trolling iPhone sites while not even owning an iPhone. Is your life so sad, pathetic and empty that you have to go into an Android site, read my long post, and actually take the time to not only read it, but comment on it? Are you so threatened by Android that you need to come into these sites and post mindless comments to make yourself feel better about your product? If you’re that insecure about your iDevice, stop trolling sites not relevant to you and just buy yourself an Android phone.
Translation: I have no valid response to the point iKing rose….
Translation: I have no valid response to the point iKing rose….
Translation: I have no valid response to the point iKing rose….
Translation: I have no valid response to the point iKing rose….
“On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing)”
Dude are you serious???? I have an iPhone 4 and a 3GS, and both of them are running the latest software. And I wasn’t held hostage by some carrier who, rather than push out timely updates, withold them in order to force you to buy a different model of phone. What planet have you been on????
Boy that Android kool-aid must taste good….
“On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing)”
Dude are you serious???? I have an iPhone 4 and a 3GS, and both of them are running the latest software. And I wasn’t held hostage by some carrier who, rather than push out timely updates, withold them in order to force you to buy a different model of phone. What planet have you been on????
Boy that Android kool-aid must taste good….
“On one hand, people want “open”, on the other hand, people want their phones updated instead of having to buy a new model (that’s Apple’s thing)”
Dude are you serious???? I have an iPhone 4 and a 3GS, and both of them are running the latest software. And I wasn’t held hostage by some carrier who, rather than push out timely updates, withold them in order to force you to buy a different model of phone. What planet have you been on????
Boy that Android kool-aid must taste good….
Wow….look at the rationalizing by the Fandroids!!! Google has admitted what many fandroids could not, even though the evidence has pointed to it all along: your platform is a fragmented mess. And so now the only way to fix the mess is to once again become more like, drumroll please, APPLE!!! Now Google, in the name of stopping fragmentation, will be able to place restrictions (a dirty word in fandroid speak) on it’s OS in order to standardize the experience across the different devices. Google now reserves the right to hold back Android from any manufacturer who violates these restrictions. So basically, hardware manufacturers and software developers have to get approval from Andy Rubin (Steve Jobs?) before they get to play with Android. Yet I’m not sensing the outrage….I wonder why??
And you fandroids have the nerve to call Apple fanboys cool-aid drinkers….lol
You fandroids have the near
Wow….look at the rationalizing by the Fandroids!!! Google has admitted what many fandroids could not, even though the evidence has pointed to it all along: your platform is a fragmented mess. And so now the only way to fix the mess is to once again become more like, drumroll please, APPLE!!! Now Google, in the name of stopping fragmentation, will be able to place restrictions (a dirty word in fandroid speak) on it’s OS in order to standardize the experience across the different devices. Google now reserves the right to hold back Android from any manufacturer who violates these restrictions. So basically, hardware manufacturers and software developers have to get approval from Andy Rubin (Steve Jobs?) before they get to play with Android. Yet I’m not sensing the outrage….I wonder why??
And you fandroids have the nerve to call Apple fanboys cool-aid drinkers….lol
You fandroids have the near
Wow….look at the rationalizing by the Fandroids!!! Google has admitted what many fandroids could not, even though the evidence has pointed to it all along: your platform is a fragmented mess. And so now the only way to fix the mess is to once again become more like, drumroll please, APPLE!!! Now Google, in the name of stopping fragmentation, will be able to place restrictions (a dirty word in fandroid speak) on it’s OS in order to standardize the experience across the different devices. Google now reserves the right to hold back Android from any manufacturer who violates these restrictions. So basically, hardware manufacturers and software developers have to get approval from Andy Rubin (Steve Jobs?) before they get to play with Android. Yet I’m not sensing the outrage….I wonder why??
And you fandroids have the nerve to call Apple fanboys cool-aid drinkers….lol
You fandroids have the near
Wow….look at the rationalizing by the Fandroids!!! Google has admitted what many fandroids could not, even though the evidence has pointed to it all along: your platform is a fragmented mess. And so now the only way to fix the mess is to once again become more like, drumroll please, APPLE!!! Now Google, in the name of stopping fragmentation, will be able to place restrictions (a dirty word in fandroid speak) on it’s OS in order to standardize the experience across the different devices. Google now reserves the right to hold back Android from any manufacturer who violates these restrictions. So basically, hardware manufacturers and software developers have to get approval from Andy Rubin (Steve Jobs?) before they get to play with Android. Yet I’m not sensing the outrage….I wonder why??
And you fandroids have the nerve to call Apple fanboys cool-aid drinkers….lol
You fandroids have the near
no its more like machine code restrictions, than it is total control and lock down. there are tons of diffrent assembly talk running around on android devices, hence why we have to wait for updates or make our own. This hopefully wont close the source just generlize the manufacture, not unlike x86 linux kernels that are all the rage.
ohh this is a iboy post! *gives poster an apple*
no its more like machine code restrictions, than it is total control and lock down. there are tons of diffrent assembly talk running around on android devices, hence why we have to wait for updates or make our own. This hopefully wont close the source just generlize the manufacture, not unlike x86 linux kernels that are all the rage.
ohh this is a iboy post! *gives poster an apple*
no its more like machine code restrictions, than it is total control and lock down. there are tons of diffrent assembly talk running around on android devices, hence why we have to wait for updates or make our own. This hopefully wont close the source just generlize the manufacture, not unlike x86 linux kernels that are all the rage.
ohh this is a iboy post! *gives poster an apple*
no its more like machine code restrictions, than it is total control and lock down. there are tons of diffrent assembly talk running around on android devices, hence why we have to wait for updates or make our own. This hopefully wont close the source just generlize the manufacture, not unlike x86 linux kernels that are all the rage.
ohh this is a iboy post! *gives poster an apple*
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Is iOS open to different manufacturers? Will iOS release older versions of iOS to manufacturers, can iOS be used outside of any iProduct? Android still remains plenty more open than iOS and these restrictions come to benefit end user, ie Me
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
Not at all. And I don’t want it to be. I actually think that this is good for Android to take more control of their platform. I just find it amusing that the very kind of behavior that Apple is routinely bashed for on this blog is now being excused by fandroids. Unbelievable…..
awesome article
awesome article
awesome article
awesome article
Android is ready for the big time, and Google knows what needs to be done to maintain the success they have generated with Android.
Android is ready for the big time, and Google knows what needs to be done to maintain the success they have generated with Android.
Yep….be more like Apple
Yep….be more like Apple
Yep….be more like Apple
Yep….be more like Apple
Yep….be more like Apple
Kind of true, but no cigar, it’s more like Microsoft, with different manufacturers, and market freedom.
Kind of true, but no cigar, it’s more like Microsoft, with different manufacturers, and market freedom.
Yep….be more like Apple
Companies can still choose not to follow the clause. They still have a choice. Just that they will be left behind with products that have obsolete versions of Android as Google slows down the release of the source code.
Those that do choose to conform, they will have the latest version in their products as they hit the shelves. And they will get the timely updates.
Companies can still choose not to follow the clause. They still have a choice. Just that they will be left behind with products that have obsolete versions of Android as Google slows down the release of the source code.
Those that do choose to conform, they will have the latest version in their products as they hit the shelves. And they will get the timely updates.
Companies can still choose not to follow the clause. They still have a choice. Just that they will be left behind with products that have obsolete versions of Android as Google slows down the release of the source code.
Those that do choose to conform, they will have the latest version in their products as they hit the shelves. And they will get the timely updates.
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
So how does it fix fragmentation if they withhold the latest updates?
This is really more for future phones than current ones.
This is really more for future phones than current ones.
This is really more for future phones than current ones.
This is really more for future phones than current ones.
This is really more for future phones than current ones.
Companies can still choose not to follow the clause. They still have a choice. Just that they will be left behind with products that have obsolete versions of Android as Google slows down the release of the source code.
Those that do choose to conform, they will have the latest version in their products as they hit the shelves. And they will get the timely updates.
I think they are finally doing what is necessary. Sure, they may not be decisions that are popular with everyone but at least it looks like they are taking action to ensure that Android continues to be successful and able to be open in the sense that multiple OEM’s and hardware companies will be able to compete on a level field–unlike the MS-Intel deal.
I’m sure they will continue to release Android to the open source community. It just may not be asap. So the hackers will have to contain themselves and wait just a little while longer, maybe, to make custom ROMS. . . however, if they really get a handle on the fragmentation maybe custom ROMS won’t be needed as much ;)
I would still love to see a clause that requires all OEM’s to release an optimized stock Android for each device, give it back to Google so they can maintain updates for it, and allow users to install that optimized stock Android on their device via the market without voiding the warranty.
I think they are finally doing what is necessary. Sure, they may not be decisions that are popular with everyone but at least it looks like they are taking action to ensure that Android continues to be successful and able to be open in the sense that multiple OEM’s and hardware companies will be able to compete on a level field–unlike the MS-Intel deal.
I’m sure they will continue to release Android to the open source community. It just may not be asap. So the hackers will have to contain themselves and wait just a little while longer, maybe, to make custom ROMS. . . however, if they really get a handle on the fragmentation maybe custom ROMS won’t be needed as much ;)
I would still love to see a clause that requires all OEM’s to release an optimized stock Android for each device, give it back to Google so they can maintain updates for it, and allow users to install that optimized stock Android on their device via the market without voiding the warranty.
I think they are finally doing what is necessary. Sure, they may not be decisions that are popular with everyone but at least it looks like they are taking action to ensure that Android continues to be successful and able to be open in the sense that multiple OEM’s and hardware companies will be able to compete on a level field–unlike the MS-Intel deal.
I’m sure they will continue to release Android to the open source community. It just may not be asap. So the hackers will have to contain themselves and wait just a little while longer, maybe, to make custom ROMS. . . however, if they really get a handle on the fragmentation maybe custom ROMS won’t be needed as much ;)
I would still love to see a clause that requires all OEM’s to release an optimized stock Android for each device, give it back to Google so they can maintain updates for it, and allow users to install that optimized stock Android on their device via the market without voiding the warranty.
I think they are finally doing what is necessary. Sure, they may not be decisions that are popular with everyone but at least it looks like they are taking action to ensure that Android continues to be successful and able to be open in the sense that multiple OEM’s and hardware companies will be able to compete on a level field–unlike the MS-Intel deal.
I’m sure they will continue to release Android to the open source community. It just may not be asap. So the hackers will have to contain themselves and wait just a little while longer, maybe, to make custom ROMS. . . however, if they really get a handle on the fragmentation maybe custom ROMS won’t be needed as much ;)
I would still love to see a clause that requires all OEM’s to release an optimized stock Android for each device, give it back to Google so they can maintain updates for it, and allow users to install that optimized stock Android on their device via the market without voiding the warranty.
I think they are finally doing what is necessary. Sure, they may not be decisions that are popular with everyone but at least it looks like they are taking action to ensure that Android continues to be successful and able to be open in the sense that multiple OEM’s and hardware companies will be able to compete on a level field–unlike the MS-Intel deal.
I’m sure they will continue to release Android to the open source community. It just may not be asap. So the hackers will have to contain themselves and wait just a little while longer, maybe, to make custom ROMS. . . however, if they really get a handle on the fragmentation maybe custom ROMS won’t be needed as much ;)
I would still love to see a clause that requires all OEM’s to release an optimized stock Android for each device, give it back to Google so they can maintain updates for it, and allow users to install that optimized stock Android on their device via the market without voiding the warranty.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I was upset at first, but I am seeing the light. This is best for android. Once everyone is on board, things will go very well and the source will start to become available sooner again.
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
They are not telling them they can’t add more ghz’s or cores, all they want is for them to atleast offer standardized instruction sets. Companies can still innovate and push the envelope but it only benefits consumers to have some standardization. Also if a company want’s to use its own architecture and instruction set, they still can they just have to wait. If you ask me this is pure win for Google
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
You won’t be stuck with only one chipset, you still will have options. Those that comply with googles anti fragmentation clause will have early access. It translates to more versions of Nexus Phones from different manufacturers.
I hate this idea. If I wanted something like this, I would’ve gotten a WP7 or iPhone. The biggest advantage of Android in my mind is the openness. You have so many devices in all price ranges. Because of this openness, Android is always ahead of the curve in terms of specs (while the Nexus One was on the old Snapdragon, we saw many other better Android phones utilizing processors like Hummingbird/MSM8655/TI OMAP3 and while the Nexus S has the Hummingbird, we are seeing phones with Tegra 2/OMAP4/MSM8660). Standardizing it takes away this advantage and makes it pretty much another WP7 (which are all stuck on the 2008 Snapdragon). If this is true, do I have to switch to Meego?
I agree also. A unified Android experience plus choice equals happy consumers
So long as the variety continues and they aren’t all the same like WP7 where the internals are all the same Im cool cuz the variety and competition is what makes android android.
So long as the variety continues and they aren’t all the same like WP7 where the internals are all the same Im cool cuz the variety and competition is what makes android android.
So long as the variety continues and they aren’t all the same like WP7 where the internals are all the same Im cool cuz the variety and competition is what makes android android.
So long as the variety continues and they aren’t all the same like WP7 where the internals are all the same Im cool cuz the variety and competition is what makes android android.
Just what i’ve been waiting for, but Android will still remain far more open than IOS. So i wouldn’t complain!
Just what i’ve been waiting for, but Android will still remain far more open than IOS. So i wouldn’t complain!
Just what i’ve been waiting for, but Android will still remain far more open than IOS. So i wouldn’t complain!
Just what i’ve been waiting for, but Android will still remain far more open than IOS. So i wouldn’t complain!
CPU standardization… you might as well drop that VM while you’re at it. I mean, what’s the point of a VM if it’s only meant to work on a uniform instruction set. It will only add an unnecessary layer of translation overhead.
CPU standardization… you might as well drop that VM while you’re at it. I mean, what’s the point of a VM if it’s only meant to work on a uniform instruction set. It will only add an unnecessary layer of translation overhead.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.
only if google greatly improves user-interface, and excellent os experience. htc sense offers the most user-friendly user-interface, but despite a blazing fast 1ghz cpu, my desire hd still lags, stutters, and freezes (or at least unresponsive) in occasions. i had an htc hero before, same experience. plus, android still has issues/bugs, for example, with its sms where msgs arent displayed in order, not as bad as before but still. otherwise, i can live with these issues as these manufacturers are actually bringing something fresh to the os.